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Voter Meeting Minutes 1/24/2016

Chris Davis: We need to treat each other with respect while sharing different opinions. Opened with prayer and then left the room. Mike Bevers: Lind Simonsen will be the Robert’s Rules guide for this meeting. Ken Breyer: Shared an update about the Building Committee. The Committee members are: Shane Doig, Selena Koosmann, Teri Sato, Ken Breyer and Todd Zern. We are working with an architect to expand eventually. We are thinking about what can be done right now. We are drawing a simple footprint now and looking at what costs will be, both now and in the future. This will be a long process. A fact sheet is coming, however, we want it correct before it goes out. Ground Rules Mike Bevers: The ground rule for this meeting is respectful listening. It is okay to disagree, but we need to do so respectfully. If you have a comment, please be brief and stay on topic. We also need to respect the majority vote and witness the love of God. When you speak please state your name for the record so that it can be recorded in the minutes and wait to be recognized. The vote is reserved for members of St. Luke’s only. The first vote will be for Pastor David Reinke. If the vote is yes, then we will move on to the vote for Pastor Chris Davis. Mike Bevers: There have been several question that have been voiced prior to this meeting. These are the answers to those questions. 1. When an Intentional Interim is needed, President Linnemann picks ONE person for that role. Pastor Reinke is the leader of the Intentional Interim group. He would be the top pick. 2. The Call for the Intentional Interim lasts only until a new Lead Pastor can be found. Pastor Reinke cannot be the Lead Pastor. 3. The ELT has voted unanimously for an Intentional Interim and Pastor Reinke. Les Soltis called for the process to begin. This was seconded by Jim Klouse. The floor is open for questions. Michael Harrell: I have a concern in calling Pastor Reinke.

1. Will he help to find a new Senior Pastor? 2. Will there be much needed reconciliation? 3. Can we review St. Luke’s structure and vision? Mike Bevers: Pastor Reinke will not call the Senior Pastor. The Call Team will do this. This is a very detailed, and thought out process. Pastor Reinke will help to prepare the church. He will help provide a transition from Senior Pastor to Senior Pastor. He may not look at our vision. Rich Wildhirt: Will this be a simple majority vote? Mike Bevers: Yes. Tina Backman: Can you review the reasons why we are seeking an Intentional Interim Pastor? Mike Bevers: President Linnemann put forth the idea of an Intentional Interim, first to staff and then to the ELT. Several Round Table meetings with the congregation members were held to see what concerns and needs were. Intentional Interims help congregations move forward. They usually have some experience with counseling. If Pastor Reinke is called, he wants to meet with the congregation in cottage meetings to find out what the needs and concerns are. He will provide insights to find a new Senior Pastor. His success rate is high in this area. There was a call for the question. First Call-Pastor David Reinke-Intentional Interim Pastor The vote was taken. The results were: 244 Call

6 No Call

Second Call Pastor Chris Davis-Associate Pastor (Mike Bevers read a scripture verse from Pastor Reinke). Mike Bevers: This Associate Pastor role would be defined as (reading from the job description) “Teaching, preaching, outreach and counseling,” as overseen by Pastor Reinke and the ELT. If voted, it will be effective 1/25/2016 for an indefinite time. The ELT has unanimously voted for this. Opened for questions by Les Soltis and seconded by Jerry Blessing Jerry Blessing: Does Chris have to consider the Call? Mike Bevers: Yes.

Jerry Church: Why is this happening? Mike Bevers: Chris prayed and he felt that God was leading him away from the Lead Pastor role. This caught people by surprise. Chris has said that God has given him peace about his decision. (Mike called members of ELT to the front to answer questions). William McDaniel: Where is this new calling for Chris? Isn’t this basically the same job? How is this new? Les Soltis-ELT: The assignment for the Lead Pastor is also a 1.5 million dollar(interrupted). William McDaniel: Where is the new part of the job? Les Soltis-ELT: Pastor Reinke will help him define his new role. William McDaniel: Won’t he be doing the same thing as he does now? Les Soltis-ELT: He will not be doing administration and leadership. Mike Bevers: No staffing. Shane Doig: I am concerned about leadership. Won’t there be struggles between all the Pastors? Bob Snyder-ELT: I talked with Pastor Reinke about this, and Chris and Pastor Reinke have talked a lot. They feel comfortable together. Shane Doig: But does the congregation feel comfortable with this? Les Soltis-ELT: We are going to ask you to “knock it off” if you try to go to Pastor Chris. As of 1/25/2016 Pastor Reinke is our new Lead Pastor. Next weekend 1/301/31, 2016 there will be an Installation of both Pastors and step down for Pastor Chris. This will be a very clear step. There will be a “Welcome Pastor Reinke” cake and this will be a firm line in the sand of leadership. This is a very important step for closure. This is important in the process. This is an outward step for the congregation. Pastor Reinke is firm and not shy. In our conversations, he gets to the heart of things quickly. Can Chris accept a number two position? I don’t know. Randy Sloper-ELT: Pastor Reinke will evaluate Chris and be honest with his evaluation of that.

Lois Thompson: I have seen Chris “work a room.” He is very good at that. He already does outreach to an extent. Sharon Bottomley: I have been a Lay Minister. There is more to a Lead Pastor than what people see. 75% of the job is administrative. Chris is also good at visitation. We should give Chris the opportunity to minister where God leads. William McDaniel: I want to make sure people understand that this is a Call. It is different from a hire. Once he is called, you can’t let him go. Are we hiring a person or a position? Pastor Reinke can review all he wants, but this is a Call and you can’t let a Pastor go once he is called. There are specific rules about that. Steve Straume-ELT: The ELT looked at all of this. The position was changed to a call instead of a hire, so that Chris could have benefits. I think he can be evaluated, and he will. He knows he can’t do the job. There is no power struggle. William McDaniel: So we are just being kind to him? Steve Straume-ELT: We have been looking for an Outreach Pastor. Todd Zern: Chris would qualify for benefits as an employee as long as he works 30 hours or more. Just a clarification. Mike Bevers-ELT: Read from the constitution. Summary: a Pastor can be dismissed for inability to perform the functions of the job. Bree Mann: Read parts of a letter previously sent to members of ELT. Concerns were shared. These had been shared with Pastor Chris on other occasions. 1. Concerns about the process. 2. Concerns with Chris’ ability. 3. Where do we go from here? Chris doesn’t drive, he can’t read or write. He has trouble teaching and giving council. Can he lead us on an outreach journey? Why wasn’t an evaluation done before? Why now? Can he go on a sabbatical? Of course we want to take care of him financially. Calling Chris may not be fair to him. Mike Bevers-ELT: ELT has looked into all of this. Now this shift will allow for Pastor Reinke to evaluate Chris. Taia Smith: The members of the ELT told us in July 2015 that an evaluation of Chris would be done. It hasn’t been done. Why? Pastor Reinke hasn’t had an opportunity to evaluate Chris at all. Why are we rushing this decision? Pat Smith: I agree with Bree and Taia. We must do what is best for St. Luke’s. Chris can’t remember names or situations. He had no memory that Glen had cancer. We

want him to be taken care of. What about disability benefits? I know another Pastor that is paid disability benefits. So don’t try to tell me that we can’t do that. He needs an evaluation. There is no real job description. Let’s find out what he can do from a medical perspective. I think we should delay the vote today. Jerry Church: Why don’t we call him today and then remove him later if he cannot perform his duties? Michael Harrell: There are only two positions for a Pastor. 1. Senior Pastor and 2. Associate Pastor. The job description for the Associate Pastor is determined by the Senior Pastor. The only requirements are can he preach the Word and administer the Sacraments. Karen Cook: I agree with Pat, Bree, and Taia. What are the qualifications for this job? Is Chris qualified? Dana Turcott: Pastor Chris was called here. We are all flawed and not perfect. We have been blessed by Chris. Gayle Bean: Dick and I have had several talks with Chris. I have told him that he reminds me of Moses. Chris can’t function without Jake, Tammy and Jan holding up his arms. Chris has said that it takes more than that to hold his arms up. It is a struggle for him. He isn’t capable. After 7 months an evaluation hasn’t taken place. ELT told us that would happen and it hasn’t been done. Jaye Dryden: I just need to share that I have been in counseling with Chris and he has told me that I am going to hell. I am not the only person he has said that to. It was devastating. Phyllis McDaniel: Why haven’t we had one prayer meeting about this? What about prayer? Matt Kliewer: I am concerned that like a football analogy, this is our best guy we are sending out there? This is our quarterback? I am worried people. I think we should put this vote off. Carrie Andrew: What other options do we have? Mike Bevers-ELT: We deemed this course of action was the best of the options available to us. Taia Smith: What are those options? We want an education on what those options were. We request those answers. We deserve to know.

Mike Bevers-ELT: (quickly reviewed options) Terri Carver: Is this the only time we can call Chris? Can we put this off? Lind Simonsen: This is a process. The ELT has been granted leadership, but they cannot call or dismiss a Pastor. If the call is not today, then a committee can be formed to determine next steps. Tamera Camp: If you didn’t call Chris, would you actually be looking for an Associate Pastor? Mike Bevers-ELT: No. But, Pastor Reinke is in favor of calling Chris. Tina Backman: And in response to the earlier comment, we were asked to pray in this process. We are in need of an Associate Pastor. God is still using Chris. God uses imperfect people. Pat Smith: Has Chris been medically evaluated? Mike Bevers-ELT: No. Pat Smith: That is part of the story. That needs to happen before we can make decisions. Dana Turcott: People are not like cars. Our bodies are limited. But, God helps us. Let’s go forward. Lois Thompson: I agree with Dana. To not call him could be devastating to Chris. Sharon Maas: I am hearing a lot of heart. Can we make this time-limited? We want to take care of Chris. In six months, how would that be to see him go? That would be harder than to make a decision now. Is that an alternative? Does that satisfy things to put things off for a bit? Ken Breyer: The Holy Spirit told Chris to step down. God is in control. It isn’t up to us. God knows what He wants and we have to pray and trust. Carrie Andrew: We don’t understand. If we do not call him, what will happen to him? Mike Bevers-ELT: Chris will be out of a job today. Pastor Reinke will decide. Dave Ramsay: I like what Ken said. We need to trust God. Chris will listen to the Holy Spirit.

Ky Hopewell: We need to thank the ELT. This is our time to help Chris. We owe him that. Russ Wolf: I have gotten counseling from Chris. He voluntarily agreed to step down. He has humility and heart. We need to search our hearts. Teri Johnson: If this was a hire situation, we would hire him. I won’t speak for all staff, but I will speak for myself. He struggles in the office. The call is not the right way to go. Lois Thompson called for the vote. Seconded by Teri Sato. Prayer by Sharon Maas. The vote was taken. The results were: 180 Call Meeting adjourned.

44 No Call

Congregational Meeting Attendance Meeting held: January 24, 2016 - 12:15pm 1

Sue Acuna

26

Janet Britt

2

Carrie Andrew

27

Matt Britt

3

Tina Backman

28

Holly Britt

4

Belinda Bartels

29

Brad Bush

5

Barbara Baumgartner

30

Tammy Caley

6

Don Baumgartner

31

Tamera Camp

7

Gayle Bean

32

Amy Carlisle

8

Dick Bean

33

Terri Carver

9

Marla Beckstrom

34

Jerri Chan

10

Bob Beckstrom

35

Howard Christianson

11

Marianne Bell

36

Vernita Christianson

12

Tyler Bell

37

Carl Church

13

Bryant Bevers

38

Dennette Church

14

Elyse Bevers

39

Jerry Church

15

Judy Bevers

40

Karen Cook

16

Mike Bevers

41

Darla Craig

17

Jerry Blessing

42

Lisa Cummings

18

Paulette Bodeutsch

43

Dave Danforth

19

Jerry Bottomley

44

Phyllis Danforth

20

Sharon Bottomley

45

Valerie Danforth

21

Donna Breyer

46

Heather Davis

22

John Breyer

47

Larry Davis

23

Kendra Breyer

48

Doug Deems

24

Ken Breyer

49

Faith Deems

25

Nate Breyer

50

Shane Doig

Congregational Meeting Attendance Meeting held: January 24, 2016 - 12:15pm 1

Pat Dorning

26

Jamie Griswold

2

Jaye Dryden

27

Theresa Griswold

3

David Emmert

28

Aurea Grothe

4

Kristin Emmert

29

Rob Grothe III

5

Roger Erickson

30

Robert Grothe Jr.

6

Stephanie Esbenshade

31

Roger Hale

7

Becky Faccone

32

Betty Hanson

8

Susan Fish

33

Paul Hanson

9

Dan Flint

34

Michael Harrell

10

Gloria Flint

35

Monte Hart

11

Gaylen Floy

36

Lori Hartman

12

Floyd Foess

37

Joe Harvath

13

Jean Ford

38

Karla Harvath

14

Rick Ford

39

Linda Herold

15

Kathy Foss

40

Shauna Higgins

16

Tammy Fossett

41

Linda Hilbert

17

Karen Foster

42

Jay Hileman

18

Mark Foster

43

Ruth Hileman

19

Debbie Fuller

44

Taryn Hill

20

Jeremy Fuller

45

Dave Hoag

21

Christy Gamble

46

Stephanie Hoag

22

Doug Grieger

47

Ky Hopewell

23

Steve Grieger

48

Mary Ann Hopewell

24

Tamara Grieger

49

Chris Hunt

25

Morgan Griffith

50

Kristie Hunt

Congregational Meeting Attendance Meeting held: January 24, 2016 - 12:15pm 1

Ben Jackson

26

Pamela McDaniel

2

Teri Johnson

27

Phyllis McDaniel

3

Angela Jones

28

Bill McDaniel

4

Julie Kinzner

29

Cheryl Mertl

5

Kevin Kinzner

30

Jason Mertl

6

Karstin Kliewer

31

Debbie Mininger

7

Matt Kliewer

32

Jess Mininger

8

Jim Klouse Jr.

33

Angie Nelson

9

Julie Klouse

34

Jason Nelson

10

Anna Koloen

35

Jerry Neumann

11

Terellice Kreshel

36

Mary Neumann

12

Joan Kroeller

37

Cathy Nolan

13

Diane Larson

38

Kevin O'Connor

14

Kirk Larson

39

Vickie O'Connor

15

Shari Lewis

40

Mitzie Ollila

16

Jenny Lockhart

41

Betty Ann Palmore

17

Brad Maas

42

Mark Palmore

18

Sharon Maas

43

Diane Percival

19

Bree Mann

44

Rob Percival

20

Bryan Mann

45

Stephen Percival

21

Julie Marshall

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Earl Peterson

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Tandy Marshall

47

Peggy Peterson

23

Astrid Maurer

48

Trisha Plucknett

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Nancy Maynard

49

Shannon Pogson

25

Debbie McCleary

50

David Ramsay

Congregational Meeting Attendance Meeting held: January 24, 2016 - 12:15pm 1

Sandy Ramsay

26

Trudy Soileau

2

Roy Ray

27

Kathy Soltis

3

Rod Riveness

28

Les Soltis

4

Yvonne Riveness

29

Rebekah Soltis

5

Karen Roppel

30

Aaron Sowma

6

Rick Roppel

31

Da Hye Sowma

7

Carolyn Saastad

32

Trudy Stewart

8

Linda Salyer

33

Mick Stewart

9

Steve Salyer

34

Ann Stoker

10

Doug Sanders

35

Callie Stoker

11

Jan Sanders

36

David Stoker

12

Sharon Sandman

37

Jan Stork

13

Matt Sato

38

Rebecca Stork

14

Teri Sato

39

Richard Stork

15

Diana Shaw

40

Corinne Straume

16

Michael Shaw

41

Steven Straume

17

Jorgann Simonsen

42

Cindy Swezea

18

Lind Simonsen

43

Gena Talaga

19

Debbie Skelton

44

John Taylor

20

Randy Sloper

45

Susan Taylor

21

Pat Smith

46

Lois Thompson

22

Steve Smith

47

Bill Thompson

23

Taia Smith

48

Art Towne

24

Bob Snyder

49

Esther Trinidad

25

Bruce Soileau

50

Dana Turcott

Congregational Meeting Attendance Meeting held: January 24, 2016 - 12:15pm 1

Gordon Turcott

26

Verna Wright

2

Barry Turnbull

27

Todd Zern

3

Charlene Turnbull

28

Jennifer Dorning

4

Marge Ulmer

29

Glen Smith

5

Vee VanderSanden

30

Mark Taylor

6

Mark VanWinkle

31

7

Miriam VanWinkle

32

8

Tim Waisanen

33

9

Denise Ward

34

10

Mary Wendler

35

11

John Werth

36

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Norma Werth

37

13

Gary Westerkamp

38

14

Terry Westerkamp

39

15

John Wiese

40

16

Anne Wiese

41

17

Debbie Wildhirt

42

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Rich Wildhirt

43

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Patsy Williams

44

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Bill Williams

45

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Raelene Wilson

46

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Steve Wilson

47

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Debbie Wolf

48

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Russ Wolf III

49

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Sara Wood

50