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A  Presenta*on  from  The  NewMR  “Pu6ng  the   ‘Qual’  in  Qualita*ve”  Event   28  March  2012  

Marke&ng  Through  Intermediaries:     Simulated  Conversa&ons     Put  You  In  the  Room     Jean  Fasching,  CMI  

Event  sponsored  by  EthOS  

All  copyright  owned  by  The  Future  Place  and  the  presenters  of  the  material   For  more  informa>on  about  Ethos  visit  www.ethosapp.com   For  more  informa>on  about  NewMR  events  visit  newmr.org  

Marketing Through Intermediaries: Simulated Conversations Put You In the Room

Research That Drives Results

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

Traditional Approach Isolated POV Client   Objec>ve  

Intermediary  

End   Customer  

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Realistic Approach Dynamic POV Client   Objec>ve  

Intermediary  

End   Customer  

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What is a simulated conversation?

An orchestrated & facilitated conversation

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Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

What is a simulated conversation? Intermediary:   Sale/  Drug  Rep   Agent   Distributor   Manufacturer   Import/   Exporter  

Expert   Moderator  

Buyer:   Physician   Customer   Retailer   Wholesaler     Distributor   Dealer  

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What is a simulated conversation? None of these people know each other Goal: represent a real life situation

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Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

For what situations? Business goals that rely on intermediaries –  Insurance –  Financial services –  Pharmaceuticals –  Distribution/ Retail

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Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

For what situations? •  Client company needs to understand how to communicate effectively and independently to both intermediaries and

A check to ensure intermediaries understand, deliver and reinforce your intended message 9

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

Why Simulated Conversations Work

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Why Simulated Conversations Work Avoid WOM decisions

A structure way for staff to hear and view actual conversations

Articulate, engaged participants

Learn from best in class as well as the norm

Reach consensus on actions

Use as a final check

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Questions that Can Be Answered How did the Best-in-class advisor convey information?

What made conversations easier?

Does the agent have everything (s)he needs to deliver a message effectively?

Is the customer getting the info they need, in words they understand? How did agents and customers react and feel? Why?

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA

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What to Expect Lively discussions Best-in-class talking-points to multiple constituents Visceral reactions to materials $$ changes & fees Immediate insights into the “hidden” conversations for marketers, ad and PR folk Life-like training tools Clients on the edge of their seats

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA

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How to Accelerate Conversations: Case Story Situation: Sales support materials were: –  Expensive to produce –  Cumbersome to use –  Required by law

The challenge: Streamline and prioritize required documents –  SOUs, transfer fund forms, income riders

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How to Accelerate Conversations: Approach Simulated sales conversation – agent, customer and professional moderator –  Financial professional - customer not linked –  Customers had a need –  Best-in-class and average agents –  Intimate room similar to sales process –  Replicate the flow of the sales process –  Orchestrated entrances & exits

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How to Accelerate Sales Conversations: Results Prioritize revisions and new insight on combining POS & support materials –  Eliminated carbon forms –  Combined POS and Support materials –  Gained approval from best-in-class financial professionals to use their conversation as training and launch material

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How to Accelerate Conversations: Results “I like the revised one better. It has the graphics and not too many words. I get it . . . . its easier to read. I don’t mind signing a few more times.” — Customer “I wouldn’t have thought that this would have helped my him. But he just told me it’s better than what I’m doing now to show and talk to this required form. My assistant can print these in my office too then we don’t need to order and stock the carbon forms anymore.” – Financial Professional

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Keys to Simulated Conversations Success •  Recognize the need for a dynamic POV •  Use an experienced moderator •  Give time to absorb new materials •  Manage participant’s entrances and exits •  Use real intermediaries and customers, but not with pre-existing relationships •  Wait for it -- be the fly on the wall Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA

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Thank you! Jean Fasching

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

Q&A

Sue York NewMR

Jean Fasching CMI Research

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

Jean Fasching Connect  with  Jean  on  LinkedIn:  www.linkedin.com/in/jeanfasching     Find  out  about  Jean’s  recent  ar>cles  and  events:  www.cmiresearch.com/w/ar>cles/    

Research That Drives Results

Speaker: Jean Fasching, VP, CMI Research, USA NewMR Putting the ‘Qual’ in Qualitative Event, 28 March 2012, Session 3

A  Presenta*on  from  The  NewMR  “Pu6ng  the   ‘Qual’  in  Qualita*ve”  Event   28  March  2012  

Marke&ng  Through  Intermediaries:     Simulated  Conversa&ons     Put  You  In  the  Room     Jean  Fasching,  CMI  

Event  sponsored  by  EthOS  

All  copyright  owned  by  The  Future  Place  and  the  presenters  of  the  material   For  more  informa>on  about  Ethos  visit  www.ethosapp.com   For  more  informa>on  about  NewMR  events  visit  newmr.org