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CONFIDENTIAL MINUTES ELEVENTH

Present:

OF THE STRATEGY

MEETING :

MONDAY

Copy Number GROUP

19th JANUARY

1987

Prime Minister (in the Chair) Lord President Foreign Secretary

Home Secretary Chancellor of the Exchequer Party Chairman Chief Whip Also

resent:

Mr Alison Professor Griffiths Mr Sherbourne Mr Harris (Secretary)

Action 1.

BTR/Pilkin

ton

The Strategy Group discussed the current controversy surrounding BTR/Pilkington. It was agreed that the main points to be stressed were that: the issue of competition had not arisen; nor was the 'national interest' an issue; the Government therefore had no responsibility to intervene. It might also be pointed out that: the shareholders were quite capable of taking all the considerations fully into account in making their decision; and that if it were thought that special criteria would be applied in such matters by government to firms in the regions that would discourage regional investment. 2.

PM/NL

City

Fraud

The Strategy Group discussed the current controversy about fraud in the City. It was agreed that briefing on this matter should stress the important steps which had already been taken by the Government and draw particular attention to the provisions of the Criminal Justice Bill, amendments to which were being proposed by the Opposition in the Lords - amendments which were designed to reduce the protection which the Government was seeking to extend to investors. It was proposed that both the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer should make speeches on the City. 3.

Next

The next 12 noon

Meetin meeting will take place on Monday, 26th January at when the paper on Presentation will be discussed.

RH/VCS 21.1.87 CONFIDENTIAL

CONFIDENTIAL

Copy

STRATEGY

GROUP

MEETING

ON

MONDAY

this Year"

19th

JANUARY

1987

1.

"Presentation

2.

Forward looking diary for the next two weeks (paper to be circulated at meeting)

3.

The Chancellor's Policy Group Report (already circulated to Strategy Group)

SS 16.1.87

CONFIDENTIAL

(paper

No

attached)

11

Conservative Research Department 0

32 Smith Square Westminster

SWIP3HH

Telephone 01-222 9511 Director:

ROBIN HARRIS

Copy number PRI ME MINISTER cc Mr Sherbourne Professor Griffiths

'MANAGING

Your Strategy Group's

Report

I attach

THE ECONOMY'

Group

on Monday,

a note

will

discuss

RH/VCS

1987

- FINAL

REPORT

the Chancellor's

Policy

19th January.

of my observations

ROBIN

14th January

(PG/86/1)

HARRIS

and recommendations.

Copy number

0

'MANAGING

1.

THE ECONOMY'

- FINAL

REPORT:

COMMENTS

(RH)

General The Report It reaffirms further regard

is clear;

radical

action

fresh

or election

radical

tax changes Treasury

imagining

be better

said now than

to take

to give

in the election bind

to be brought

the

us at present

Recommendations

(References

and education up early

- paragraph

14;

in the

by stealth:

in

and the extension

in the campaign.

view

of what

needs

of uncertainty

(I attach

a

(For

is no point

can be achieved

- appendix

to have

and health

impression

campaign.

serious

in the

parliament.

But there

a realistic

much

pledges

in effect,

in education

on health

and proposes

having

to avoid

in the next

these

elaboration.

involved.

so as,

25-6.)

that

charging

of VAT are bound

S ecific

options

- paragraphs

particular,

which

campaign

look at possibilities

example,

would

is the need

little

strategy

however,

difficulties

theme

need

economic

- without,

to the political

manifesto

its contents

the Government's

A recurring

2.

(PG/86/1)

.

the three

It to be

or division

key tax pledges

A).

of the Re ort

are to paragraph

numbers

of the Policy

Group

Report).

Paragraph

14:

It is unrealistic

can keep all the options in education

and health

open

to imagine

of i-iii

since

are different.--

that one

the possibilities

Nothing

should

be said n

which

implies

treatment

might

no temptation damaging

that

to

charging

be introduced.

parental

education

In practice,

o t is in health:

to the case

and increased

for basic

for devolution

but

or hospital there will

it would

of management

choice if they were linked

be

be politically of schools

with

the

/introduction

of

.....

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introduction

of charging.

Paragraph

15:

This

Paragraph

22:

(i) and

well;

but the argument

other

options

will

again

for cuts

also need

now and the General

profile

of the issue of tax:

Group

on tax/social

Report

associated Survey would also

by the public

(July 1986) cut taxes

true

that

as that

show

they would

Similarly,

to suggest

tax cuts

than others.

lower

rather

taxes

that

growing

Paragraph

28:

in preparations the objective ceiling

outlined

be advantage

honestly

spending

are more

polls

or not) taxes.

services,

of no

in favour

should not

than public

Labour

It is

to lower

therefore,

See above

services

because

of be

but

of a healthy

- something

which

But

of relief

I attach C.

in a further

- 1. General.

be discussing

by the Policy

(though

- appendix

do so.

the opinion

are now possible

for the Budget.

we can exploit).

that

reverse.

You will

Parties

Summer

to me that he knows

there a note

That rise

this with

it is worth Group

forward

suggests

considering

shows

rates

- is

confusions

and which

the Parties'

to me that there

in the £30,000

that

in the

by the Labour

are some past which

the Chancellor

- no rise

at the higher

the same as that now put

'Alliance'

positions

economy,

and limitation

effectively

and better

believed

would

group

important

of the But the

The Party's

people

public

the C1/C2

and those

that we are clearly

(whether

has confirmed

25 et se g.:

Paragraphs

say

to

the

us in that.

B) that

Our argument,

Conservative

help

as many

increased

that

taxes

would

will

- appendix

to raise

problems

tax cutting.

that

are more

lower

our opponents

with

rate as opposed

We need

Labour's

for tax cuts

out convincingly

the Conservatives

Britto

evidence

that

Election.

that people

prefer

Keith

to be spelt

in believing

showed

(see attached

consistently

in the basic

security

is complacent

at the level of theory.

(ii) put the argument

between

'Alliance'

remains

ceiling:

would in

/particular,

we

...

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- 3 .

particular, against

we might

it and the SDP abstaining

Paragraph women

29 (ii):

are not happy

Paragraphs be worth

including

Channon

are made reform

and

On balance,

on wider

- both

of which

ownership

provide group

of which

did

chaired

I forwarded

that

of keen

further

thinking

we want

to make

full use of the property

feature during of it. presents

40:

in other

Reports:

the Chancellor's

Group's

The main

like to give

3.

Omissions 1.

proposals

his Group's

may

areas

The proposals

Group

Peter

of the Policy

Group's

the CPS wider a paper

that we do need

in the Manifesto owning

Cropper

deliberations

if

democracy

theme.

rents

provided

a paper

on the finances

be considered

When

remit

in 'Alliance'

for de-regulating

should

Report.

or on further

interest

I am sure

to show

Paragraph

that no new proposals

o- provided

Vinson

on-both

ask

as well.

on pensions;

to the Treasury.

they

in the Group's

in the course

by Nigel

which

you should

ownership

were

some proposals

it would

from the beginning

areas

share

are the subject

John Redwood

discussions

be asked

It is disappointing

in the Report

circles.

which

35-36:

in these

that

allowances.

for privatisation

be privatised I recommend

ideas

of the Conservative

I believe

candidates

voting

last time.

for transferable

In any case , we will

of pensions

both

as they did

the proposal

some named

for his

and Liberals

some

campaign.

Paragraphs

Party

As you know,

be and how they might

of the Election Paul

with

30-34:

in the Manifesto . might

see the Labour

that happens

when the

Mr Ridley ance

or

his views.

What

pledges

the Chancellor

really

made

in and since

urging

should

the 1983 campaign

not be reaffirmed /time?

this .

is

Copy number

.

- 4

2. Manifesto

3.

Are we still

further

for zero

inflation:

Should

the

say so?

What

or as a share

4.

aiming

There work

is our aim

for public

of GDP - and what

- in real

do we say about

are no new proposals now be commissioned?

spending

on wider

terms

it?

ownership:

Should

Copy number

0 CONFIDENTIAL

APPENDIX

Commitments

iven

1.

Mort

The

Prime

that

mortgage

"I

Minister

confirm

on Food

"We

a

on

no

intention

ice cream,

nditures

public.

assurances

will

as

be retained,

for example:

I am

Dispatch

relief

at

will

the

be

a

Box,

policy

of

the

made

in

the

77 no 97 col 1331.

European

Labour

(Prime

tax

1984

of

several

long

1985 OR vol

have

leader

so

statements

to the

Tax E

Party".

VAT

of

given

relief

interest

April

run-up

has

that,

[16

number

on the Ma'or

Relief

interest

Conservative

A

Ministers

a e Interest

mortgage

2.

b

A

the

VAT

and

elections,

of

opposition

should who

soft drinks

and potato

12

June

put

1984

7561.

1

were

for example:

extending

Chancellor

Minister

food

VAT

to

remember VAT

on

food. that

it

The was

confectionery,

crisps." OR

vol

61

no

169

col

Copy number 3.



Pension

In his

1985

Fund Taxation

Budget

"There

is

of

pension

of

the

Any

Statement

also

a

way,

a Green

as

for

of

reform

need

to

be

that

I have

no such Green

indeed,

agitation,

do

affect

and

the

tax

treatment

thorough-going

personal this

savings kind

by

reform

generally.

would,

the

in

the

publication

of

am

sure,

be

Paper

the the

interested

to

learn

in mind.

unparalleled

of

the

tax-deductibility

of

pension

fund

the

tax

of

pension

fund

gains,

detailed

pre-Budget

any

capital

tax free

[OR 19 March

I

despite

contributions,

loved

said:

Paper.

will,

income

a

preceded

House

Budget

of

of

The

Nor,

changing

part

treatment

fundamental

same

case

funds,

tax

the Chancellor

free or

nature the

proposals

anomalous

lump sum."

1985 vol

75 no 83 col 7951.

but

in

my

much-

Copy.

numbe

.

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ConservativeandUnionist Central Office 32 Smith Square Westminster SW1P 3HH

Telephone 01-222 9000

Memorandum from:

.BRI•TTO......

Date : ..........

TAXES

..............KEITH

13tfl .January.

AND

PUBLIC

To: """""'ROBTN'HALRIS'

...........

.....................................

.1987 .................

SPENDING

As promised I have looked at recent polls with regard to attitudes to tax cuts versus public spending. The latest available information I have is taken from a Gallup survey published in October - the results are given below together with comparative figures from June 1986.

People

have

differing

views

about

whether

it is more important to reduce taxes or keep up Government Which

of these

spending.

statements

comes

How closest

about

you?

to your

Oct

June

1986

1986

own

view?

Taxes being cut, even if it means some reductions in Government services, such as

health, education and welfare. Things

should

be left

9

17

18

14

68

64

5

5

as they

are. Government services such as health, education and welfare should be extended, even if it

means some increases in taxes Don't

know

As you can see there has been little change since from June 1986 to October 1986. In June 1986 64% thought Government services should be extended even if this means increases in taxes compared with 68% in October 1986. We do not have a detailed analysis of this question by socio-economic groups I will try and obtain. It is likely to be only ABC1, C2 and DE. I doubt if I will be able to separate out Cl's from the ABC1 groups.

Copy

number

i..

C

OPPOSITION

1.

LIBERALS

AND

PARTIES

ON

MORTGAGE

INTEREST

TAX

RELIEF

SDP 'Partnershi

for

Pro

ress ' : Jul

1986

The Alliance would also promote owner occupation by enabling those on low incomes to become home owners. Mortgage Tax Relief has assisted millions on households to buy their own homes. It is essential and must be retained. We do not believe however that the present situation whereby the better off benefit most from this relief is fair. lie would therefore conf' ne iort a e Tax Relief to the basic rate of tax. The Alliance Parties propose help for t ose on low incomes - wit a eposit by extending the existing Home Purchase Assistance Scheme which was set up in 1973. This Scheme would particularly help young people buying for the first time, and council tenants could choose this scheme instead of the 'Right to Buy'. We would also promote, through local authorities and building societies, index-linked mortgages to reduce mortgage repayments in the early years when they are highest.

2.

LABOUR

NEC

Statement

to 1986 Conference

Party

Policy

As

: Social

Approved

by

Securit

Conference

Making the structure of taxation fairer V part of our plan, It more !undamental reform of taxation we have prepared a package ,tf hjn¢r' atth the following haracieristics •

An end to e' Jt,.nmtnaflon

in the taxation of earnings hs• taxing

men and women ndeprndrntk •

lntroJuctiun tt J new reduced rate hand of income tax for the low paid, and a progressive i%stemof !axrates to be levied according to inutmc



Resirtctwn oiill Jllowan.e, against tax to the sta ndard ra te. so as at end the present sstrm of extra tax allowance for the weal'h\



ntr,tducnon

of j new

pnterrs,ne

:mph

st

!jeer and more comprehensi%r system of nati



kcmosat

-I

rsm .n,urance

ln,otuit

n of J lamp Joan

a-iJJn,e

-kill

l hi,

A ill 's•sf utre

in the Inland

i,h, '

's

main

Those

on

tnwuncc . nmhuuom _JrR to ,fx_, ai natonal n se _s: ,t.r seek and in sestmenI

the

r,,m .aro, nC s:mpu,nn.me ! :ns . s •4 L . "v -p..,.



:onirihunnns

a:ll tale a lister rate of national insurance r. neher n.omes

bras and m,dJle m..,me, - mtrthui - n Than h- -

Re' moe

ram,-

their

-,

tjjrJ,

1

1 protc

i .mail

JCrr,

in trines ?srnritt,. ij\ r%i,wn Jnd as ;ne

Hutton

oh, which

of j uhsran iii i num her Ott thri,uRh rrsrnur tt- acted

.,,i



Reinrn-JJsts,n of a ,,mprchrn,i\c



1;ehtrnine Thetmsregime for ar0Jl gain, and insrstment mime



Inin iu.ttn

let

') Uih a pJ.kJge he pasicage

,.i a as

u\ on .apical rranarr,

n aCJi!h

,'I rrt , rm, -a,,u1Jmake the ux system much latter in nseit. could not nsofse an\ tax mcreasa• lOr the

ordinars t.tspjser Thu a f+'ssihie hecausr of the sheer scale of redutnhuuon trim oriinan ta\pa\ers to the nih that has taken place sin ce the Ismsrr\auyes

same :ii pnwl 'r

in

1979

and

Taxation

PRIME

MINISTER

16

MANAGING

The

Thrust

The

major

of the

Re ort

proposals

are:

a.

a target

b.

a reduction and

c.

of

zero

top

privatisation

d.

joining

e.

more

t.

resources

rate

PSA and

rate

tax

to 25p

to 50p

coal,

steel , water

and

Waterways

Exchange

rigorous

of income

inflation

of electricity,

the

1987

ECONOMY

in the basic

in the

possibly

THE

Januar

Rate

tests

Mechanism

for welfare

following

consumers

of the

EMS

benefits

in

education

and

health

All

9•

revitalisation

of

are

desirable

the

apart

from

a. and

ERM

and

The

cornerstone

Medium for

of

exception

need

economic

Financial

more

reduced the

It

and

is

taxes

money

policy

Strategy

expenditure,

growth.

measuring

b . all

rented

of

market.

the

joining

ERM;

but

work.

EMS

Term

supply

been

the

public

with

the private

public

since

(MFTS), sector

because

of

cut,

despite

supply.

- 1 -

1979

which

has

borrowing

this

that

has

been

set and

inflation

the difficulties

the

targets money has

of

r y. Er', -

This

Report

reaffirms but

that

says

does

advocates public

nothing

not even

a binding

a major

change

expenditure

about

the

mention

needs

PSBR

or

the MTFS.

commitment

to

in tactics.

the

to be controlled, money

supply.

In its place

membership

of

It

the

It

it advocates

ERM

after

the

election.

It

is

highly

likely

Secretary

will

the

place

to

and

exchange

the

foreign

damaging

run-up

to

to press

discuss

tactical

rate

policy.

exchange the

Chancellor

this

issue.

questions

It would

and money

Government,

and

not

A Manifesto of

lead

markets least

Foreign

is not funding

monetary

to speculation

and in

could

the

in

be very

immediate

to the election.

election ERM

the

wish

Recommendation:

for

that

Maintain

there

will

present

be plenty

policy.

of time

Having

to examine

won the

the case

membership.

Privatisation

We need make

to expand

this

on our

an important

success

part

of our

It is unrealistic,

however,

substantial

privatisation

specific are

future

industries

prepared

run

involved

we

the

(b)

you will

risk

that

be hounded

past

a commitment

without

listing

(see appendix in this

A).

the

Unless

will

the campaign

be vague;

to say

something;

(c)

it will

be more

parliamentary

difficult

colleagues

to secure for

privatisation.

-

2

and

to

Manifesto:

the Manifesto

during

privatisation

programme.

to make

to be specific

(a)

with

the support

the more

contentious

of

we

Steel,

electricity,

difficulties be

how

we

of

British

in being

declare Rail

South-East)

union

Should

extended?

The

Freight,

the

the

give

list

What

much

of

about

Inter-City, of

to imagine

that

of a hostage

parts

parts

Network

the

trade

by being

to fortune.

to be privatised

of the

would

NC}3 and

opposition

industries

no

difficulty the

Parcels,

incurring

present

major

regarding

It is difficult

you may

not

and Waterways

intentions

(BREL,

without

PSA

mentioned.

our

movement.

specific

water,

Post

be

and

office

urban

bus

companies?

Para

30

which

competition programme"

how

reaffirms

"the

or an important is

it might

very

objective

part

important

and

of

of

the

needs

increasing

privatisation more

thinking

as

taxes,

but

to

be implemented.

Recommendation:

(i)

List

(ii)

specific

Extend

(iii)

existing

Reaffirm

(ii) and

industries

(iii)

list

competition

require

extra

work.

Taxation

Para

29 not only

a fair

deal

for women

Reco mmendation:

further

Public

work

Before

a commitment and

removal

any

to lower of existing

commitment

is

made

tax

also

penalties.

these

need

and discussion.

Ex enditure

Demographic

pressure

makes

trends

on public

and

rising

expectations

expenditure.

The

-3-

great

are

putting

challenge

great

to

future

governments

assumptions

"free".

This

context public

and

of

is to break

policies,

has

lower

reforms

cases

the objective sector

practical.

The

concrete

provided

overburdened

one

by

stimulated

the Manifesto

housing

and

to introduce in

by

should

health. more

direct

paras

where

12-18

Regional

In all

paying is

outline

activities

to

wherever

rather

for

might

higher

be

renovation,

services

which

for

mentioned

rules

and

limit

Authorities

hospitals

house/flat a range

of

might

pay)

people

explicitly

which

introduced

council

of increased

Health

schools

pricing

options

are not

funding

individual

economy

be to transfer

of

loans,

if they

and

is

lacks:

medical

per capita LEAs

and

as the price

preventive

b)

must

examples

(eg student

even

expenditure

discussion

It

what

in the negative

a vigorous

in education,

the private

rents

of

of established

taxation.

of public

theoretical.

of

not

arthritic

but

major

a)

an

expenditure,

In terms

especially

to be presented

avoiding

appreciably

the mould

in the Manifesto;

the discretion

of

in funding

- so that

money

follows

choice;

c)

increased

use

of

private

schools

and

the BBC

re independent

Recommendation: these

issues?

BRIAN

GRIFFITHS

housing

Would

supplies

(compared

it

within

to the

25%

the

rate

NHS,

imposed

on

producers).

be

useful

to

commission

papers

on

APPENDIX

A

SECRET

ELECTRICITY

The

PRIVATISATION

Pro osal:

To privatise

(ESI)

in a way

would

be

sell

off

Area

Boards

would

to generate

some

to

which

maintain

competing

become

of

grid.

independent

own

electricity

best

grid

companies,

paying

industry solution

but

to

or in groups.

electricity

companies,

The

The

electricity

individually

their

supply

competition.

national

stations

generating

national

promotes the

the power

the electricity

or

freedom

to buy

tolls

showrooms

with

for

would

The

from

use

the

of the

be sold

off

separately.

Reasons

in

proceeds

favour:

well

ownership.

over

More

therefore

more

consumers

could

contracts

when

security ESI.

A major

from

twice

efficient shop

of

projects

efficiency

through

use of

or district

Ar

a

likely

and

commodity handle

ainst:

private standards

The

advantageous

decisions.

small-scale

heat

Greater

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