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CONFIDENTIAL MINUTES ELEVENTH
Present:
OF THE STRATEGY
MEETING :
MONDAY
Copy Number GROUP
19th JANUARY
1987
Prime Minister (in the Chair) Lord President Foreign Secretary
Home Secretary Chancellor of the Exchequer Party Chairman Chief Whip Also
resent:
Mr Alison Professor Griffiths Mr Sherbourne Mr Harris (Secretary)
Action 1.
BTR/Pilkin
ton
The Strategy Group discussed the current controversy surrounding BTR/Pilkington. It was agreed that the main points to be stressed were that: the issue of competition had not arisen; nor was the 'national interest' an issue; the Government therefore had no responsibility to intervene. It might also be pointed out that: the shareholders were quite capable of taking all the considerations fully into account in making their decision; and that if it were thought that special criteria would be applied in such matters by government to firms in the regions that would discourage regional investment. 2.
PM/NL
City
Fraud
The Strategy Group discussed the current controversy about fraud in the City. It was agreed that briefing on this matter should stress the important steps which had already been taken by the Government and draw particular attention to the provisions of the Criminal Justice Bill, amendments to which were being proposed by the Opposition in the Lords - amendments which were designed to reduce the protection which the Government was seeking to extend to investors. It was proposed that both the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer should make speeches on the City. 3.
Next
The next 12 noon
Meetin meeting will take place on Monday, 26th January at when the paper on Presentation will be discussed.
RH/VCS 21.1.87 CONFIDENTIAL
CONFIDENTIAL
Copy
STRATEGY
GROUP
MEETING
ON
MONDAY
this Year"
19th
JANUARY
1987
1.
"Presentation
2.
Forward looking diary for the next two weeks (paper to be circulated at meeting)
3.
The Chancellor's Policy Group Report (already circulated to Strategy Group)
SS 16.1.87
CONFIDENTIAL
(paper
No
attached)
11
Conservative Research Department 0
32 Smith Square Westminster
SWIP3HH
Telephone 01-222 9511 Director:
ROBIN HARRIS
Copy number PRI ME MINISTER cc Mr Sherbourne Professor Griffiths
'MANAGING
Your Strategy Group's
Report
I attach
THE ECONOMY'
Group
on Monday,
a note
will
discuss
RH/VCS
1987
- FINAL
REPORT
the Chancellor's
Policy
19th January.
of my observations
ROBIN
14th January
(PG/86/1)
HARRIS
and recommendations.
Copy number
0
'MANAGING
1.
THE ECONOMY'
- FINAL
REPORT:
COMMENTS
(RH)
General The Report It reaffirms further regard
is clear;
radical
action
fresh
or election
radical
tax changes Treasury
imagining
be better
said now than
to take
to give
in the election bind
to be brought
the
us at present
Recommendations
(References
and education up early
- paragraph
14;
in the
by stealth:
in
and the extension
in the campaign.
view
of what
needs
of uncertainty
(I attach
a
(For
is no point
can be achieved
- appendix
to have
and health
impression
campaign.
serious
in the
parliament.
But there
a realistic
much
pledges
in effect,
in education
on health
and proposes
having
to avoid
in the next
these
elaboration.
involved.
so as,
25-6.)
that
charging
of VAT are bound
S ecific
options
- paragraphs
particular,
which
campaign
look at possibilities
example,
would
is the need
little
strategy
however,
difficulties
theme
need
economic
- without,
to the political
manifesto
its contents
the Government's
A recurring
2.
(PG/86/1)
.
the three
It to be
or division
key tax pledges
A).
of the Re ort
are to paragraph
numbers
of the Policy
Group
Report).
Paragraph
14:
It is unrealistic
can keep all the options in education
and health
open
to imagine
of i-iii
since
are different.--
that one
the possibilities
Nothing
should
be said n
which
implies
treatment
might
no temptation damaging
that
to
charging
be introduced.
parental
education
In practice,
o t is in health:
to the case
and increased
for basic
for devolution
but
or hospital there will
it would
of management
choice if they were linked
be
be politically of schools
with
the
/introduction
of
.....
Copy number - 2
introduction
of charging.
Paragraph
15:
This
Paragraph
22:
(i) and
well;
but the argument
other
options
will
again
for cuts
also need
now and the General
profile
of the issue of tax:
Group
on tax/social
Report
associated Survey would also
by the public
(July 1986) cut taxes
true
that
as that
show
they would
Similarly,
to suggest
tax cuts
than others.
lower
rather
taxes
that
growing
Paragraph
28:
in preparations the objective ceiling
outlined
be advantage
honestly
spending
are more
polls
or not) taxes.
services,
of no
in favour
should not
than public
Labour
It is
to lower
therefore,
See above
services
because
of be
but
of a healthy
- something
which
But
of relief
I attach C.
in a further
- 1. General.
be discussing
by the Policy
(though
- appendix
do so.
the opinion
are now possible
for the Budget.
we can exploit).
that
reverse.
You will
Parties
Summer
to me that he knows
there a note
That rise
this with
it is worth Group
forward
suggests
considering
shows
rates
- is
confusions
and which
the Parties'
to me that there
in the £30,000
that
in the
by the Labour
are some past which
the Chancellor
- no rise
at the higher
the same as that now put
'Alliance'
positions
economy,
and limitation
effectively
and better
believed
would
group
important
of the But the
The Party's
people
public
the C1/C2
and those
that we are clearly
(whether
has confirmed
25 et se g.:
Paragraphs
say
to
the
us in that.
B) that
Our argument,
Conservative
help
as many
increased
that
taxes
would
will
- appendix
to raise
problems
tax cutting.
that
are more
lower
our opponents
with
rate as opposed
We need
Labour's
for tax cuts
out convincingly
the Conservatives
Britto
evidence
that
Election.
that people
prefer
Keith
to be spelt
in believing
showed
(see attached
consistently
in the basic
security
is complacent
at the level of theory.
(ii) put the argument
between
'Alliance'
remains
ceiling:
would in
/particular,
we
...
Copy number
- 3 .
particular, against
we might
it and the SDP abstaining
Paragraph women
29 (ii):
are not happy
Paragraphs be worth
including
Channon
are made reform
and
On balance,
on wider
- both
of which
ownership
provide group
of which
did
chaired
I forwarded
that
of keen
further
thinking
we want
to make
full use of the property
feature during of it. presents
40:
in other
Reports:
the Chancellor's
Group's
The main
like to give
3.
Omissions 1.
proposals
his Group's
may
areas
The proposals
Group
Peter
of the Policy
Group's
the CPS wider a paper
that we do need
in the Manifesto owning
Cropper
deliberations
if
democracy
theme.
rents
provided
a paper
on the finances
be considered
When
remit
in 'Alliance'
for de-regulating
should
Report.
or on further
interest
I am sure
to show
Paragraph
that no new proposals
o- provided
Vinson
on-both
ask
as well.
on pensions;
to the Treasury.
they
in the Group's
in the course
by Nigel
which
you should
ownership
were
some proposals
it would
from the beginning
areas
share
are the subject
John Redwood
discussions
be asked
It is disappointing
in the Report
circles.
which
35-36:
in these
that
allowances.
for privatisation
be privatised I recommend
ideas
of the Conservative
I believe
candidates
voting
last time.
for transferable
In any case , we will
of pensions
both
as they did
the proposal
some named
for his
and Liberals
some
campaign.
Paragraphs
Party
As you know,
be and how they might
of the Election Paul
with
30-34:
in the Manifesto . might
see the Labour
that happens
when the
Mr Ridley ance
or
his views.
What
pledges
the Chancellor
really
made
in and since
urging
should
the 1983 campaign
not be reaffirmed /time?
this .
is
Copy number
.
- 4
2. Manifesto
3.
Are we still
further
for zero
inflation:
Should
the
say so?
What
or as a share
4.
aiming
There work
is our aim
for public
of GDP - and what
- in real
do we say about
are no new proposals now be commissioned?
spending
on wider
terms
it?
ownership:
Should
Copy number
0 CONFIDENTIAL
APPENDIX
Commitments
iven
1.
Mort
The
Prime
that
mortgage
"I
Minister
confirm
on Food
"We
a
on
no
intention
ice cream,
nditures
public.
assurances
will
as
be retained,
for example:
I am
Dispatch
relief
at
will
the
be
a
Box,
policy
of
the
made
in
the
77 no 97 col 1331.
European
Labour
(Prime
tax
1984
of
several
long
1985 OR vol
have
leader
so
statements
to the
Tax E
Party".
VAT
of
given
relief
interest
April
run-up
has
that,
[16
number
on the Ma'or
Relief
interest
Conservative
A
Ministers
a e Interest
mortgage
2.
b
A
the
VAT
and
elections,
of
opposition
should who
soft drinks
and potato
12
June
put
1984
7561.
1
were
for example:
extending
Chancellor
Minister
food
VAT
to
remember VAT
on
food. that
it
The was
confectionery,
crisps." OR
vol
61
no
169
col
Copy number 3.
•
Pension
In his
1985
Fund Taxation
Budget
"There
is
of
pension
of
the
Any
Statement
also
a
way,
a Green
as
for
of
reform
need
to
be
that
I have
no such Green
indeed,
agitation,
do
affect
and
the
tax
treatment
thorough-going
personal this
savings kind
by
reform
generally.
would,
the
in
the
publication
of
am
sure,
be
Paper
the the
interested
to
learn
in mind.
unparalleled
of
the
tax-deductibility
of
pension
fund
the
tax
of
pension
fund
gains,
detailed
pre-Budget
any
capital
tax free
[OR 19 March
I
despite
contributions,
loved
said:
Paper.
will,
income
a
preceded
House
Budget
of
of
The
Nor,
changing
part
treatment
fundamental
same
case
funds,
tax
the Chancellor
free or
nature the
proposals
anomalous
lump sum."
1985 vol
75 no 83 col 7951.
but
in
my
much-
Copy.
numbe
.
B
ConservativeandUnionist Central Office 32 Smith Square Westminster SW1P 3HH
Telephone 01-222 9000
Memorandum from:
.BRI•TTO......
Date : ..........
TAXES
..............KEITH
13tfl .January.
AND
PUBLIC
To: """""'ROBTN'HALRIS'
...........
.....................................
.1987 .................
SPENDING
As promised I have looked at recent polls with regard to attitudes to tax cuts versus public spending. The latest available information I have is taken from a Gallup survey published in October - the results are given below together with comparative figures from June 1986.
People
have
differing
views
about
whether
it is more important to reduce taxes or keep up Government Which
of these
spending.
statements
comes
How closest
about
you?
to your
Oct
June
1986
1986
own
view?
Taxes being cut, even if it means some reductions in Government services, such as
health, education and welfare. Things
should
be left
9
17
18
14
68
64
5
5
as they
are. Government services such as health, education and welfare should be extended, even if it
means some increases in taxes Don't
know
As you can see there has been little change since from June 1986 to October 1986. In June 1986 64% thought Government services should be extended even if this means increases in taxes compared with 68% in October 1986. We do not have a detailed analysis of this question by socio-economic groups I will try and obtain. It is likely to be only ABC1, C2 and DE. I doubt if I will be able to separate out Cl's from the ABC1 groups.
Copy
number
i..
C
OPPOSITION
1.
LIBERALS
AND
PARTIES
ON
MORTGAGE
INTEREST
TAX
RELIEF
SDP 'Partnershi
for
Pro
ress ' : Jul
1986
The Alliance would also promote owner occupation by enabling those on low incomes to become home owners. Mortgage Tax Relief has assisted millions on households to buy their own homes. It is essential and must be retained. We do not believe however that the present situation whereby the better off benefit most from this relief is fair. lie would therefore conf' ne iort a e Tax Relief to the basic rate of tax. The Alliance Parties propose help for t ose on low incomes - wit a eposit by extending the existing Home Purchase Assistance Scheme which was set up in 1973. This Scheme would particularly help young people buying for the first time, and council tenants could choose this scheme instead of the 'Right to Buy'. We would also promote, through local authorities and building societies, index-linked mortgages to reduce mortgage repayments in the early years when they are highest.
2.
LABOUR
NEC
Statement
to 1986 Conference
Party
Policy
As
: Social
Approved
by
Securit
Conference
Making the structure of taxation fairer V part of our plan, It more !undamental reform of taxation we have prepared a package ,tf hjn¢r' atth the following haracieristics •
An end to e' Jt,.nmtnaflon
in the taxation of earnings hs• taxing
men and women ndeprndrntk •
lntroJuctiun tt J new reduced rate hand of income tax for the low paid, and a progressive i%stemof !axrates to be levied according to inutmc
•
Resirtctwn oiill Jllowan.e, against tax to the sta ndard ra te. so as at end the present sstrm of extra tax allowance for the weal'h\
•
ntr,tducnon
of j new
pnterrs,ne
:mph
st
!jeer and more comprehensi%r system of nati
•
kcmosat
-I
rsm .n,urance
ln,otuit
n of J lamp Joan
a-iJJn,e
-kill
l hi,
A ill 's•sf utre
in the Inland
i,h, '
's
main
Those
on
tnwuncc . nmhuuom _JrR to ,fx_, ai natonal n se _s: ,t.r seek and in sestmenI
the
r,,m .aro, nC s:mpu,nn.me ! :ns . s •4 L . "v -p..,.
•
:onirihunnns
a:ll tale a lister rate of national insurance r. neher n.omes
bras and m,dJle m..,me, - mtrthui - n Than h- -
Re' moe
ram,-
their
-,
tjjrJ,
1
1 protc
i .mail
JCrr,
in trines ?srnritt,. ij\ r%i,wn Jnd as ;ne
Hutton
oh, which
of j uhsran iii i num her Ott thri,uRh rrsrnur tt- acted
.,,i
•
Reinrn-JJsts,n of a ,,mprchrn,i\c
•
1;ehtrnine Thetmsregime for ar0Jl gain, and insrstment mime
•
Inin iu.ttn
let
') Uih a pJ.kJge he pasicage
,.i a as
u\ on .apical rranarr,
n aCJi!h
,'I rrt , rm, -a,,u1Jmake the ux system much latter in nseit. could not nsofse an\ tax mcreasa• lOr the
ordinars t.tspjser Thu a f+'ssihie hecausr of the sheer scale of redutnhuuon trim oriinan ta\pa\ers to the nih that has taken place sin ce the Ismsrr\auyes
same :ii pnwl 'r
in
1979
and
Taxation
PRIME
MINISTER
16
MANAGING
The
Thrust
The
major
of the
Re ort
proposals
are:
a.
a target
b.
a reduction and
c.
of
zero
top
privatisation
d.
joining
e.
more
t.
resources
rate
PSA and
rate
tax
to 25p
to 50p
coal,
steel , water
and
Waterways
Exchange
rigorous
of income
inflation
of electricity,
the
1987
ECONOMY
in the basic
in the
possibly
THE
Januar
Rate
tests
Mechanism
for welfare
following
consumers
of the
EMS
benefits
in
education
and
health
All
9•
revitalisation
of
are
desirable
the
apart
from
a. and
ERM
and
The
cornerstone
Medium for
of
exception
need
economic
Financial
more
reduced the
It
and
is
taxes
money
policy
Strategy
expenditure,
growth.
measuring
b . all
rented
of
market.
the
joining
ERM;
but
work.
EMS
Term
supply
been
the
public
with
the private
public
since
(MFTS), sector
because
of
cut,
despite
supply.
- 1 -
1979
which
has
borrowing
this
that
has
been
set and
inflation
the difficulties
the
targets money has
of
r y. Er', -
This
Report
reaffirms but
that
says
does
advocates public
nothing
not even
a binding
a major
change
expenditure
about
the
mention
needs
PSBR
or
the MTFS.
commitment
to
in tactics.
the
to be controlled, money
supply.
In its place
membership
of
It
the
It
it advocates
ERM
after
the
election.
It
is
highly
likely
Secretary
will
the
place
to
and
exchange
the
foreign
damaging
run-up
to
to press
discuss
tactical
rate
policy.
exchange the
Chancellor
this
issue.
questions
It would
and money
Government,
and
not
A Manifesto of
lead
markets least
Foreign
is not funding
monetary
to speculation
and in
could
the
in
be very
immediate
to the election.
election ERM
the
wish
Recommendation:
for
that
Maintain
there
will
present
be plenty
policy.
of time
Having
to examine
won the
the case
membership.
Privatisation
We need make
to expand
this
on our
an important
success
part
of our
It is unrealistic,
however,
substantial
privatisation
specific are
future
industries
prepared
run
involved
we
the
(b)
you will
risk
that
be hounded
past
a commitment
without
listing
(see appendix in this
A).
the
Unless
will
the campaign
be vague;
to say
something;
(c)
it will
be more
parliamentary
difficult
colleagues
to secure for
privatisation.
-
2
and
to
Manifesto:
the Manifesto
during
privatisation
programme.
to make
to be specific
(a)
with
the support
the more
contentious
of
we
Steel,
electricity,
difficulties be
how
we
of
British
in being
declare Rail
South-East)
union
Should
extended?
The
Freight,
the
the
give
list
What
much
of
about
Inter-City, of
to imagine
that
of a hostage
parts
parts
Network
the
trade
by being
to fortune.
to be privatised
of the
would
NC}3 and
opposition
industries
no
difficulty the
Parcels,
incurring
present
major
regarding
It is difficult
you may
not
and Waterways
intentions
(BREL,
without
PSA
mentioned.
our
movement.
specific
water,
Post
be
and
office
urban
bus
companies?
Para
30
which
competition programme"
how
reaffirms
"the
or an important is
it might
very
objective
part
important
and
of
of
the
needs
increasing
privatisation more
thinking
as
taxes,
but
to
be implemented.
Recommendation:
(i)
List
(ii)
specific
Extend
(iii)
existing
Reaffirm
(ii) and
industries
(iii)
list
competition
require
extra
work.
Taxation
Para
29 not only
a fair
deal
for women
Reco mmendation:
further
Public
work
Before
a commitment and
removal
any
to lower of existing
commitment
is
made
tax
also
penalties.
these
need
and discussion.
Ex enditure
Demographic
pressure
makes
trends
on public
and
rising
expectations
expenditure.
The
-3-
great
are
putting
challenge
great
to
future
governments
assumptions
"free".
This
context public
and
of
is to break
policies,
has
lower
reforms
cases
the objective sector
practical.
The
concrete
provided
overburdened
one
by
stimulated
the Manifesto
housing
and
to introduce in
by
should
health. more
direct
paras
where
12-18
Regional
In all
paying is
outline
activities
to
wherever
rather
for
might
higher
be
renovation,
services
which
for
mentioned
rules
and
limit
Authorities
hospitals
house/flat a range
of
might
pay)
people
explicitly
which
introduced
council
of increased
Health
schools
pricing
options
are not
funding
individual
economy
be to transfer
of
loans,
if they
and
is
lacks:
medical
per capita LEAs
and
as the price
preventive
b)
must
examples
(eg student
even
expenditure
discussion
It
what
in the negative
a vigorous
in education,
the private
rents
of
of established
taxation.
of public
theoretical.
of
not
arthritic
but
major
a)
an
expenditure,
In terms
especially
to be presented
avoiding
appreciably
the mould
in the Manifesto;
the discretion
of
in funding
- so that
money
follows
choice;
c)
increased
use
of
private
schools
and
the BBC
re independent
Recommendation: these
issues?
BRIAN
GRIFFITHS
housing
Would
supplies
(compared
it
within
to the
25%
the
rate
NHS,
imposed
on
producers).
be
useful
to
commission
papers
on
APPENDIX
A
SECRET
ELECTRICITY
The
PRIVATISATION
Pro osal:
To privatise
(ESI)
in a way
would
be
sell
off
Area
Boards
would
to generate
some
to
which
maintain
competing
become
of
grid.
independent
own
electricity
best
grid
companies,
paying
industry solution
but
to
or in groups.
electricity
companies,
The
The
electricity
individually
their
supply
competition.
national
stations
generating
national
promotes the
the power
the electricity
or
freedom
to buy
tolls
showrooms
with
for
would
The
from
use
the
of the
be sold
off
separately.
Reasons
in
proceeds
favour:
well
ownership.
over
More
therefore
more
consumers
could
contracts
when
security ESI.
A major
from
twice
efficient shop
of
projects
efficiency
through
use of
or district
Ar
a
likely
and
commodity handle
ainst:
private standards
The
advantageous
decisions.
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